Curse

Jayden_Angelus · Feb 11, 2012, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Anyone out there that's completed this, have some tips/hero build suggestions on how to beat Reiko in Hard Mode?

I tried using con sets and summoning stones as well, and got her down to almost a quarter of the way, but then I just got overwhelmed between the Ministry forces, the illusions of Reiko and the wave of phantoms she spawned.

I've checked the wiki but so far no one has posted a walkthrough or suggestions. Not sure if it's just that I need more actual people or not, but to make it through all the rest of the WoC HM content and then get stuck on the final one is frustrating.

Character I'm doing it on is my warrior.

_Aphotic_ · Feb 11, 2012, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Any meta pvx hero builds will work fine. Consider additional hex removal as well as additional damage in place of some utility/healing skills. Mostly the damage will help.

And then...
bring "By Ural's Hammer!".
She really shouldn't be pulling off her "killing" of you until she's about to die. BUH your party members up when around say 4-6 die, and you should be done in less than 30 seconds, provided you find her real form (hopefully).
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Full Walkthrough if that doesn't help:

At the beginning, try positioning your heroes so they're not all up on the hill where she stands. Try keeping them along the sides/across the river away from her. This will help your positioning much later on, when the ministry spawns.

Throughout the fight, always prioritize to kill Ministry spawns, Phantasms, and then follow Miku's targets around. This can be especially important when she calls Promise of Death (target her on your party bar, then attack the thing she's attacking if you're unable to keep track of the fight).

I ran an Imbagon for this (pretty useless imho, SY doesn't protect against a majority of the damage), but my heroes were as such:
2x E-Surge (don't bring Panic unless you wanna Panic yourself to death when she uses a Phantasm/her clones)
1x Shared Burden
1x UA Smite Support (replaced Smite Condition with additional Hex Removal)
1x RoJ Smite Support (Nukes work surprisingly extremely well, as she doesn't kite them, consider bringing an Ele in place of an E-surge mes)
1x AotL Minion Master (Minions DO actually help here. There are enough corpses/AI is stupid and will cast mistrust/panic on them instead of your heroes)
1x OoS Channeling Support Rit (consider Nightmare Weapon over Splinter; bring Life and Bloodsong)

It's pretty much smooth sailing until she gets to a 1/10th of her health. Then, let the heroes who are going to get spiked out die, and then BUH them up. Make sure you KNOW which Reiko is the real one as well (call it once you BUH).

Did it on my first try w/ BUH, though I failed 2-3 times previously, always failing at around the same point: once where her health bar (Grand Illusion bar) had a microscopic sliver of health left... inspiring me to bring BUH and just make things easy

-EDIT-

Proof: (Lazy bar on my part, but it was about 3AM my time when I beat WoC; the amount i cared for/wanted to run another build was nil.)

Chthon · Feb 11, 2012, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Eh, I just focused on eliminating her summons to avoid getting overwhelmed. Targeting priority: Ministry guys, phantasms, Reiko(/clones).

As far as I can tell, doing damage to Reiko or the Reikoclones or the phantasms depletes the purple bar. Not sure on that.

If there's a way to distinguish the real Reiko from the fake ones, I didn't see it.

In some ways this is a throwback to the Doppleganger fight. Don't bring skills that you don't want to see used against you (ex: Panic, Starburst, Scourge Healing); do bring skills that the AI can't use effectively.

[edit: Is it Reikoclones, or Reiklones? Or maybe Feikos? Opinions?]

E N I G M A · Feb 11, 2012, 07:53 PM // 19:53

This is what I ran...

ST Rit
OAOjAyhDJPYTrX48x1SgmOzkLA
SoGM Rit
OAmjAykqJOfzN3ZLan5c2OzaMA
SoS Healer
OghjwMhsIPXzyZ1kZKNncDzqHA
Illusion Mes
OQhkAoB8AGK0LwKACYeWGAJwy3FD
Panic Mes
OQBDAqwDO0gcQGY6Z6GCFhlP
AotL MM
OAhkUwGYoIqkcQVAagC4Wo3EGzFD
PoD Healer
OAhjYgHaIPSzJ3wccaHsEP1qKA

No one in my party even went below 80% health and as long as you clear out her summons first, Reiko will go down pretty quickly.

Jayden_Angelus · Feb 11, 2012, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Aphotic_

Any meta pvx hero builds will work fine. Consider additional hex removal as well as additional damage in place of some utility/healing skills. Mostly the damage will help.

And then...
bring "By Ural's Hammer!".
She really shouldn't be pulling off her "killing" of you until she's about to die. BUH your party members up when around say 4-6 die, and you should be done in less than 30 seconds, provided you find her real form (hopefully).
--------
Full Walkthrough if that doesn't help:

At the beginning, try positioning your heroes so they're not all up on the hill where she stands. Try keeping them along the sides/across the river away from her. This will help your positioning much later on, when the ministry spawns.

Throughout the fight, always prioritize to kill Ministry spawns, Phantasms, and then follow Miku's targets around. This can be especially important when she calls Promise of Death (target her on your party bar, then attack the thing she's attacking if you're unable to keep track of the fight).

I ran an Imbagon for this (pretty useless imho, SY doesn't protect against a majority of the damage), but my heroes were as such:
2x E-Surge (don't bring Panic unless you wanna Panic yourself to death when she uses a Phantasm/her clones)
1x Shared Burden
1x UA Smite Support (replaced Smite Condition with additional Hex Removal)
1x RoJ Smite Support (Nukes work surprisingly extremely well, as she doesn't kite them, consider bringing an Ele in place of an E-surge mes)
1x AotL Minion Master (Minions DO actually help here. There are enough corpses/AI is stupid and will cast mistrust/panic on them instead of your heroes)
1x OoS Channeling Support Rit (consider Nightmare Weapon over Splinter; bring Life and Bloodsong)

It's pretty much smooth sailing until she gets to a 1/10th of her health. Then, let the heroes who are going to get spiked out die, and then BUH them up. Make sure you KNOW which Reiko is the real one as well (call it once you BUH).

Did it on my first try w/ BUH, though I failed 2-3 times previously, always failing at around the same point: once where her health bar (Grand Illusion bar) had a microscopic sliver of health left... inspiring me to bring BUH and just make things easy

-EDIT-

Proof: (Lazy bar on my part, but it was about 3AM my time when I beat WoC; the amount i cared for/wanted to run another build was nil.)

Seeing from your screen shot, that you apparently didn't kill Eri, Heart of Fire during that one quest before Final Confrontation? If you don't kill her she helps you out later. Wish I had known that before hand!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by E N I G M A

This is what I ran...

ST Rit
OAOjAyhDJPYTrX48x1SgmOzkLA
SoGM Rit
OAmjAykqJOfzN3ZLan5c2OzaMA
SoS Healer
OghjwMhsIPXzyZ1kZKNncDzqHA
Illusion Mes
OQhkAoB8AGK0LwKACYeWGAJwy3FD
Panic Mes
OQBDAqwDO0gcQGY6Z6GCFhlP
AotL MM
OAhkUwGYoIqkcQVAagC4Wo3EGzFD
PoD Healer
OAhjYgHaIPSzJ3wccaHsEP1qKA

No one in my party even went below 80% health and as long as you clear out her summons first, Reiko will go down pretty quickly.

How long did it take for her to go down? It seems to be taking hours if not more just to get her down far enough.

Jayden_Angelus · Feb 12, 2012, 02:22 AM // 02:22

Okay, I've tried the different styles and I seem to get her down quite a bit but for some reason, when I get her down to about 1/10th or so, they just spawn so fast that I can't kill them fast enough.

If someone that's beaten it wouldn't mind taking me through it, I'd really appreciate it. Even popping cons there's just so many spawns that can't out heal or spike them fast enough.

ENIGMA, I used your builds on my last try and it went surprisingly well until I got wiped. Not sure if I'm flagging them in the wrong spot or what's going on.

IGN Selene Rayne

E N I G M A · Feb 12, 2012, 03:46 AM // 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayden_Angelus

How long did it take for her to go down? It seems to be taking hours if not more just to get her down far enough.

I don't remember how long it took, but I'm pretty sure it didn't go over 10 minutes.

Quote:

ENIGMA, I used your builds on my last try and it went surprisingly well until I got wiped. Not sure if I'm flagging them in the wrong spot or what's going on.

What I did at the beginning was spread out all of my spirits before the battle started. Afterwards just flag heroes out of Chaos Storm if you see them in it. Other than that, attack all the clones, which should be the ones Miku is not attacking. I was using an Enraged Lunge beastmaster at the time so the clones/Ministry went down pretty quickly. After reading up on Reiko on the wiki, you might not even need Pain of Disenchantment or Mark of Pain because she doesn't really have and enchants and the enemies are rarely clumped together. You can replace them for other damage or heal skills. You can replace Panic for another elite too for the same reason.

Jayden_Angelus · Feb 12, 2012, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Thank you E N I G M A!!

Hooper287 · Aug 06, 2012, 06:35 AM // 06:35

I've tried ENIGMA's recommendation, it worked in NM but I can't (for the life of me) get it in HM. Tried many different teams, many different tactics, I just can't keep up. I'm doing something wrong! Please help